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Reply to Tokens change without reason after updating to iOS 17.5.1
[quote='812921022, Engineer, /thread/758325?answerId=812921022#812921022'] We have confirmed this bug is still present. Please follow up in your bug report. [/quote] Hello @Engineer! It’s now 8 months later after you suggested we should follow up with our bug reports. Could you please check that my bug report is with the correct team? So far I have not received ANY feedback / commend / workaround / bug fix proposal which is concerning: FB15500649
Topic: App & System Services SubTopic: General Tags:
Jul ’25
Reply to Tokens change without reason after updating to iOS 17.5.1
[quote='847740022, DTS Engineer, /thread/758325?answerId=847740022#847740022'] As far as we can tell this is a bug. There’s no code-level workaround, because tokens are opaque by definition. The user-level workaround was mentioned by thomas_maht in their original post. It’s annoying, but AFAICT it works. [/quote] Hey Quinn! Thanks a lot for the update and confirming that this indeed a bug and sharing a user-level workaround! Do you have any more information about the workaround? Because, as @thomas_maht has mentioned, the bug re-appears after a couple of days and that’s just too much to ask users to re-select apps every couple of days. They rather rage-delete out apps (and blame us 3rd party developers for being incompetent), and it’s just impossible to communicate that Apple has not fixed this bug that exists for more than 18 months. My personal device is affected by this as well, I’m happy to fly to Cupertino and reproduce the issue for the engineers if that would help. This has to be fixed with iOS 26! Thanks a lot for your help!
Topic: App & System Services SubTopic: General Tags:
Jul ’25
Reply to Tokens change without reason after updating to iOS 17.5.1
Thanks for getting back to me on this! [quote='848011022, DTS Engineer, /thread/758325?answerId=848011022#848011022'] So, just be clear, the problem is reoccurring every couple of days on your personal device? [/quote] Yes, I can temporarily fix this by re-selecting apps / tokens from the FamilyActivityPicker, but then after a couple of days the tokens change again and the problems come back (it’s very inconsistent in that regard: sometimes it’s just a couple of minutes / hours / days until the problems resume). In my feedback request I have a minimal sample project and a video that shows the bug in action on my personal device: FB15500649
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Jul ’25
Reply to Tokens change without reason after updating to iOS 17.5.1
[quote='848409022, DTS Engineer, /thread/758325?answerId=848409022#848409022'] File has failed to upload from user's device [/quote] Sorry about that! I was under the impression that the feedback assistant is fetching & uploading the sysdiagnose in the background. I don’t find that exact sysdiagnose file anymore, but you can find another recent sysdiagnose from iOS 26 beta 1 in this radar: FB17844364 (I checked, and for this one you can actually download the sysdiagnose) Thanks a lot for your help on this!
Topic: App & System Services SubTopic: General Tags:
Jul ’25
Reply to Tokens change without reason after updating to iOS 17.5.1
[quote='848409022, DTS Engineer, /thread/758325?answerId=848409022#848409022'] File has failed to upload from user's device [/quote] Actually the daily ApplicationToken reset just happened to me again, this time on iOS 26 beta 3. Please find a fresh sysdiagnose here: FB18764644 Hope that helps to narrow down the bug! After we wrote yesterday, I re-selected all my apps / ApplicationTokens within my app, and just now the tokens provided into the ShieldConfigurationDataSource are all different and unknown to my app. I really really really would love to know how I can prevent this from happening for myself & my users 🥺🥺🥺 Previously it has been indicated that changes in iCloud Family can trigger this – while this might be true, this can’t be the only trigger for changing ApplicationTokens. Nothing is changing in my iCloud family on a regular basis. As offered before, I am more than happy to run any kinds of tests or collect additional debugging material / logs / etc in case that would be helpful (or even travel to Cupertino with my iPhone if nobody there can reproduce the issue).
Topic: App & System Services SubTopic: General Tags:
Jul ’25
Reply to Detecting When App Token Is Removed Due to Category Selection in FamilyActivityPicker
[quote='791334021, Nasheet, /thread/791334, /profile/Nasheet'] does the system not give access to the relationship between apps and their categories [/quote] This is not possible unfortunately. I desperately need the same functionality for my app as well. A while ago I sent a feedback request / radar to Apple but haven’t heard anything back: FB16121372 I would urge you to file a feedback request as well: Demonstrate your use-case. Showcase how this would not affect user-privacy (you still don‘t know which app and category are represented by each token, you just know that they’re related). Post your feedback number here as well 🙌 Let’s work on this together and shape the future of the Screen Time API – such an important topic nowadays that deserves more attention by Apple!
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Jul ’25
Reply to Open Parent App From ShieldActionDelegate
[quote='849106022, DTS Engineer, /thread/793060?answerId=849106022#849106022'] I think it’s better to focus on this issue here. [/quote] Thanks for your reply here, Quinn! One thing I forgot to add in my initial post is the feedback request / enhancement request under which this is tracked: New with iOS 26 sysdiagnose: FB18846650 Original from last year, without any response so far: FB15079668
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Jul ’25
Reply to Bug in Screen Time API: familyActivityPicker dismisses a presenting sheet on iOS 18.4 and above
Have you tried what happens if you present a normal SwiftUI sheet from the sheet instead of the FamilyActivityPicker? → Does it lead to the same unexpected behavior? Then it’s likely a SwiftUI bug/ Otherwise, have you tried embedding the FamilyActivityPicker inside a SwiftUI view and present that instead? Does the unexpected behavior still reproduce?
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Jul ’25
Reply to Family Controls App Help
[quote='787690021, TurnerLogan, /thread/787690, /profile/TurnerLogan'] I just can't extract the data needed to track the apps. [/quote] Hello Turner! Apple’s Screen Time API is designed with a huge focus on user privacy, so you cannot extract any data as you intend. The FamilyActivityPicker gives you ApplicationTokens which represent apps, but you don’t know which. But you can use them to block apps as you intend. Hope that helps!
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Jul ’25