Thanks for the reply Ziqiao. Currently, LeaderboardScore stores a reference to User, and User does not store an array of scores. My understanding was that this follows the WWDC guidance (like the shoebox example), where child records reference the parent rather than the parent embedding children. When you mentioned that nothing in User points back to the scores, are you suggesting I should explicitly store score references in the User record? Wouldn’t that effectively mean storing scores in the user table, which doesn’t seem conceptually right? Just trying to confirm whether my current forward-reference model is already the intended approach, or if I’m misunderstanding what “back references” mean in this context.

Thank you so much for the quick response. Looks like I can move forward in my work now. I was just hung on whether i am creating a bad schema but this clears up the confusion so thank you.

Thank you for the response! I think there may be a slight misunderstanding of my question. I am already linking each LeaderboardScore record to a user via a reference field. My challenge is how to efficiently calculate and determine the user’s rank, since I am not storing a rank field in the records and instead compute it client-side. Please see attached photo for visual reference. Current Implementation Fetch LeaderboardScore records sorted by score (descending): let query = CKQuery(recordType: "LeaderboardScore", predicate: predicate) query.sortDescriptors = [NSSortDescriptor(key: "score", ascending: false)] Assign rank based on position in the sorted results: entries = scores.enumerated().map { index, score in score.asLeaderboardEntry( rank: index + 1, // Rank assigned client-side isCurrentUser: score.profile.id == currentProfileID ) } This works well when the current user is within the fetched results (e.g., top 15–20). In that case, I can determine their rank directly from the local data. However, if the user is ranked further down (e.g., #247), I would need to paginate through results until reaching their record to determine the rank. This does not seem efficient or scalable. Core Question Given this setup: What is the recommended way to determine a user's rank when they are not within the initially fetched results? Is there an efficient way to compute rank without paginating through all higher-scoring records? Alternatively, is storing and maintaining a rank field the expected approach in CloudKit for this use case? Additional Concern If rank were to be stored, I'm unsure how it could be maintained efficiently. When a user submits a new score, assigning a rank would require knowing the relative position of all other users and potentially updating their ranks as well, which seems expensive and difficult to keep consistent. Do you think this use case is not well-suited for CloudKit and would require a custom backend? I chose CloudKit to avoid building backend infrastructure, but I’m open to reconsidering that approach if it’s the recommended solution for implementing leaderboards with such features.