There are a lot of references to "simulator" in that log. For example r/CoreSimulator/Profiles/Runtimes/iOS.simruntime and Build/Products/Debug-iphonesimulator. Did he somehow get a build for the simulator instead of an actual device? John

Thanks. I'll see how IB_DESIGNABLE and IB_INSPECTABLE work within a custom framework as I would like to keep everything together and a host application. If I discover anything I'll report back.

Claude: If I do a setMenuBarVisible(false), that'll hide it for my app, but when the 'special' Application starts up, there's the menubar. So doing _HIHideMenuBar, is getting half the requirement done, but if the mouse moves into the 'show menu bar' region at the top of the screen the menu bar appears. We're trying to prevent that. John

Claude: I want the menu bar to be hidden globally during the execution of this special app. Once the app quits everything goes back to the way the user had it before. It's a security thing - the user has to be locked down when this app is running. Fun stuff! John

Claude: I use presentation options to hide the dock and menu bar (and other options) within my app, but we need to globally hide the menu bar as we start up an app that has a menu bar. (Short version of a long story: previous developers, access to source, lawyers, and time to re-implement it). I just need stop the menu bar from sliding down when when it's been told to hide while this app is running. John

Quinn: (Where's my Manfred Mann (or Bob Dylan)? It used to be around here someplace...). I've attached a crash log. Doesn't make much sense - isKindOfClass is failing. Could it be the return type, it's a 'long long' that's been typedef'd. Any pointers would be appreciated. John PS: I remember that you rang me a long time ago about some AD stuff I was having a problem with... QuinnsCrashReport.txt