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Reply to Non-convex collision?
The solution, I think, is to decompose the concave mesh into convex meshes. Then, if this is a static mesh, then you're in luck because optimal performance doesn't matter much if you just want a result in a reasonable amount of time. Resave it as a collection of meshes for reloading in the future. If it's a dynamic mesh, you're kind of stuck doing this at runtime. I think this is a very normal thing to do. Concave collision detection is more expensive than convex. Note: I think it would be useful to include some built-in algorithm for handling this both in Metal Performance and RealityKit APIs. (Maybe file a feature request?)
Topic: Spatial Computing SubTopic: General Tags:
Mar ’24
Reply to Eye tracking permission
@Matt Cox I have similar qualms about the limitations on custom rendering. I think a lot of this could be partially-solved by, as you suggest, allowing for mesh streaming as opposed to just texture streaming. A better solution would be permitting custom metal rendering outside of fully-immersive mode. I can imagine composition services + Metal having special visionOS CPU-side Metal calls that allow the programmer to specify where to render the camera data/what to occlude. For custom shaders (which we really will need at some point since surface shaders are pretty limiting), there'd need proper sandboxing so reading the color/depth of the camera couldn't leak back to the CPU. Some kind of Metal-builtin read/function-pointer support? I think you ought to file a feature request, for what it's worth. We're not the only ones who've raised this point. Pointing to specific examples probably helps a bit.
Topic: App & System Services SubTopic: Core OS Tags:
Mar ’24
Reply to Researcher in Spatial Computing / HCI Looking to Use Enterprise APIs on Vision Pro for HCI Research-Only.
@sanercakir I clicked the developer only request button and it says I am not allowed to view the page. But I am not the account holder. I assumed that I needed to be an enterprise with 100+ employees and so on. By the way, I am an individual account holder. Might I need to be a “business?” In any case, please let me know how to resolve this, if I need to contact a certain department.
Topic: Business & Education SubTopic: General Tags:
Jun ’24
Reply to Researcher in Spatial Computing / HCI Looking to Use Enterprise APIs on Vision Pro for HCI Research-Only.
@DTS Engineer I see this: "Your account can’t access this page. There may be certain requirements to view this content. If you’re a member of a developer program, make sure your Account Holder has agreed the latest license agreement." Is this link actually live, or is it planned to work after WWDC? This is why I thought I needed to be a business — I don't see a way to gain access. I am just an individual who wants to do purely internal research via collaboration with my university. I 100% understand these APIs need to be used with care, and I don't intend to sell or distribute this specific part of the research potentially using these APIs.
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Jun ’24
Reply to Sample Project for WWDC24 10092 Metal with Passthrough?
Unfortunately, the example doesn't show how to integrate scene understanding for realistic lighting. It just seems to show how to add passthrough in the background. Is there an example that is more advanced, showing how to do occlusion, use the environment texture, do lighting with the scene reconstructed mesh, etc.? If not, that's super needed. It's not so straightforward.
Topic: Graphics & Games SubTopic: Metal Tags:
Jun ’24
Reply to Non-convex collision?
@JayDev85 Are you able to access the mesh vertices, indices, etc? Worst case you could create convex meshes from the concave mesh yourself.
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Mar ’24
Reply to Vision Pro - lets join forces to improve VisionOS platform
Custom metal rendering pipelines in single-app passthrough mode with occlusion/depth, custom shaders, composition with the real world. (Note: not asking for camera access — this could be handled by the OS backend however possible. For example, sandbox pixel read in the shaders to avoid insecure access to the data on the CPU.)
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Mar ’24
Reply to Non-convex collision?
Are you able to access the mesh vertices, indices, etc with the API? Worst case you could create convex meshes from the concave mesh yourself.
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Mar ’24
Reply to Non-convex collision?
The solution, I think, is to decompose the concave mesh into convex meshes. Then, if this is a static mesh, then you're in luck because optimal performance doesn't matter much if you just want a result in a reasonable amount of time. Resave it as a collection of meshes for reloading in the future. If it's a dynamic mesh, you're kind of stuck doing this at runtime. I think this is a very normal thing to do. Concave collision detection is more expensive than convex. Note: I think it would be useful to include some built-in algorithm for handling this both in Metal Performance and RealityKit APIs. (Maybe file a feature request?)
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Mar ’24
Reply to Eye tracking permission
@Matt Cox I have similar qualms about the limitations on custom rendering. I think a lot of this could be partially-solved by, as you suggest, allowing for mesh streaming as opposed to just texture streaming. A better solution would be permitting custom metal rendering outside of fully-immersive mode. I can imagine composition services + Metal having special visionOS CPU-side Metal calls that allow the programmer to specify where to render the camera data/what to occlude. For custom shaders (which we really will need at some point since surface shaders are pretty limiting), there'd need proper sandboxing so reading the color/depth of the camera couldn't leak back to the CPU. Some kind of Metal-builtin read/function-pointer support? I think you ought to file a feature request, for what it's worth. We're not the only ones who've raised this point. Pointing to specific examples probably helps a bit.
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Mar ’24
Reply to Researcher in Spatial Computing / HCI Looking to Use Enterprise APIs on Vision Pro for HCI Research-Only.
@sanercakir I clicked the developer only request button and it says I am not allowed to view the page. But I am not the account holder. I assumed that I needed to be an enterprise with 100+ employees and so on. By the way, I am an individual account holder. Might I need to be a “business?” In any case, please let me know how to resolve this, if I need to contact a certain department.
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Jun ’24
Reply to Eye Tracking Availability and App Requirements in iPadOS 18
@Engineer Are you able to use eye tracking as a regular API within an app? I’m interested in triggering an event upon some short dwell time over a specific region of the screen.
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Jun ’24
Reply to Researcher in Spatial Computing / HCI Looking to Use Enterprise APIs on Vision Pro for HCI Research-Only.
@DTS Engineer I see this: "Your account can’t access this page. There may be certain requirements to view this content. If you’re a member of a developer program, make sure your Account Holder has agreed the latest license agreement." Is this link actually live, or is it planned to work after WWDC? This is why I thought I needed to be a business — I don't see a way to gain access. I am just an individual who wants to do purely internal research via collaboration with my university. I 100% understand these APIs need to be used with care, and I don't intend to sell or distribute this specific part of the research potentially using these APIs.
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Jun ’24
Reply to Sample Project for WWDC24 10092 Metal with Passthrough?
Unfortunately, the example doesn't show how to integrate scene understanding for realistic lighting. It just seems to show how to add passthrough in the background. Is there an example that is more advanced, showing how to do occlusion, use the environment texture, do lighting with the scene reconstructed mesh, etc.? If not, that's super needed. It's not so straightforward.
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Jun ’24
Reply to WebAR with visionOS 2.0?
EDIT: the augmented reality flag exists, and I'm wondering if it already worked in v1? If not, does it work in v2?
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Jun ’24
Reply to Bug? Xcode 16 macOS 15 SDK on macos 14.5 causes Metal Shader Colors to be Wrong
EDIT: This should be deleted. It turned out that there was some sort of change in the compilation steps causing issues with initialization of color data. The issue has nothing to do with rendering.
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Jun ’24
Reply to Researcher in Spatial Computing / HCI Looking to Use Enterprise APIs on Vision Pro for HCI Research-Only.
@DTS Engineer Actually I was able to access the form yesterday, so I filed a request with a very detailed description of what I want to do (for research dev only). I hope this will be accepted. It would be incredibly useful.
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Jun ’24
Reply to Researcher in Spatial Computing / HCI Looking to Use Enterprise APIs on Vision Pro for HCI Research-Only.
@DTS Engineer Last thing: do you anticipate replies will roll-out next week? I understand this week has been super hectic given the event of course.
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Jun ’24
Reply to Researcher in Spatial Computing / HCI Looking to Use Enterprise APIs on Vision Pro for HCI Research-Only.
The request prompted me with a code for my records, but what can I do with it? Is there a way to track the status of the request or contact someone via support?
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Jun ’24
Reply to Can Xcode 16 beta 4 build to iPadOS 18.1?
I am waiting for someone from Apple to reply here. Really I think this should be written in the release notes, but it isn't.
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Aug ’24