Thanks Edford, but this page you mention doesn’t mention how to get the dsyms from Xcode cloud and there is no button to download from App Store Connect on those crash reports. https://help.apple.com/xcode/mac/current/#/devef5928039 can you point me to something that is updated for Xcode cloud?

Hi Rincewind, et al I'm attempting to adopt the appearance APIs, and for one set of navigation controllers I want to have a completely transparent background, but with a background image with content mode Bottom, and still take advantage of bar button items on left and right. I have a Storyboard (upgraded from iOS5-->6-->7-->9-->12-->13-->14-->15. Deployment target iOS 15 (beta 5).) I really think I'm setting everything correctly, but there's a visual effect view with a white background in the view hierarchy. I first just tried setting appearance with the storyboard settings. Then I tried adding some code. UINavigationBarAppearance *scrollAppearance = [[self.navigationController.navigationBar scrollEdgeAppearance] copy];     [scrollAppearance configureWithTransparentBackground];     [scrollAppearance setBackgroundImage:[UIImage imageNamed:@"logoDoohickey"]];     [scrollAppearance setBackgroundImageContentMode:UIViewContentModeBottom];     [scrollAppearance setBackgroundColor:[UIColor clearColor]];     [scrollAppearance setBackgroundEffect:nil];     [self.navigationController.navigationBar setScrollEdgeAppearance:scrollAppearance]; Is there anyway to convince a navigation bar that it's not near a scroll view (which it isn't). The white view claims to be a visual effects backdrop view. How do I get rid of it or set its alpha to 0? Thanks!! KT